Haven't tried for myself yet, but I hear it works surprisingly well for cutting down on unwanted reverb and it looks a hell of a lot more cost efficient than most sound-deadening options out there.
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Re: Gear Talk! +Wishlists « Reply #31 on Feb 26, 2011, 11:23am »
^ I actually had that for a while when I lived in a bigger apartment and room reverb was a huge issue. Worked pretty well, considering. Moving blankets really work well to deaden echoes and such.
So I bought Pro Tools 9 for an amazing deal of $260 but now that it's arrived, iLok.com is refusing to recognize the new iLok I bought (lost my old one). What. The. Fuck. I am SO close.
Mmm mmm....jus thinking about those mics...aw baby..
If I go more musical composition, I'll need to update my arsenal:
Guitar: A Black with Red Bevels Jackson KE2 Custom (with tune-o-matic instead of floyd rose.) and a custom Coffin case for it.
Keyboard: Roland Phantom X6
Slave Device: Korg Triton
VST: Hollywood Strings (5k. For strings.)
DAW: Pro Tools (whatever is the latest)
or if I work with more midi: Logic (whatever's the latest)
Custom Recording PC (Or MAC if I go with Logic) optimized for pro tools, and with 7 PCM slots so I can use the amazing VST's I want.
Guitar Amp: A Vetta III Amp or Custom Marshall Amp
Analog Mixer: Amtrak (Who needs a house? HA!)
Speakers? A secret
A special pre-amp for my awesome mic: Focusrite Red 7 Classic Microphone Pre-Amplifier with Dynamics (oh baby, this thing's worth every fucking penny.)
Probably a Sony Two-track DVD Audio Recorder to record to..I like Sony's products when it comes to Audio.
As for Mbox 3, it will always have shitty pre-amps, good pre-amps are thousands However, some good interface or plug-ins can fix it. The odun side is you'll get some bad latency over time..
Ugh, I'm gonna bore you all with my gear talk. lol, but yeah, that's my list so far i'm always tweaking it, just like with my gearbox setting for guitar/vocals
I hadn't checked these Shure ribbon mics out before. Wow, a ribbon that handles 146dB??
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Singing: Sennheiser MD441
I've been considering a SM7B for vocals forever, but haven't seen this Sennheiser mentioned much as a vocal mic. Are lots of metal guys using it for recording?
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Or a Neumann M147
Do you hang out on Gearslutz much? There's a lot of talk about the Stellar CM-6 tube mic. Folks are going all ga-ga for it. $350 and can apparently keep up with much more expensive mics. Also easy to swap out the tube for something more vintage, apparently. There's only one seller and he sells out as soon as he puts them on ebay. I'm thinking I might try to pick one up and see what the fuss is about.
I hadn't checked these Shure ribbon mics out before. Wow, a ribbon that handles 146dB??
1: It's not Shure's mic. It is made by Crowly and Tripp. It was originally called the "El Diablo" and the reason it is so hardy is that it uses Roswellite, a new material that was discovered very recently, for the ribbon. The ribbon is incredibly durable, and allows the mic to handle things people wouldn't dream of putting a ribbon mic through.
2: I wouldn't use a ribbon mic unless you REALLY NEED their signature sound for your voice...(which can easily be reproduced by utilizing proximity effect in cheaper mics with a bi-directional pattern) They are mega expensive, and condenser mics provide similar quality for less money. It is illogical to use ribbons for vocals, it is mostly cosmetic, their sound is very easy to mimic, and condensers by R0DE and AKG (for instance) can give you that awesome quality for far less money.
I've been considering a SM7B for vocals forever, but haven't seen this Sennheiser mentioned much as a vocal mic. Are lots of metal guys using it for recording?
You probably haven't seen it mentioned because you haven't been looking for Dynamic Sennheisers ;P This microphone is extremely versatile in its uses. It has many setting built-in and can handle guitars, amps, drums, and vocals with high quality and easy. It also is a badass looking mic. (I've used one many times, I loove this thing when it comes to music)
Do you hang out on Gearslutz much? There's a lot of talk about the Stellar CM-6 tube mic. Folks are going all ga-ga for it. $350 and can apparently keep up with much more expensive mics. Also easy to swap out the tube for something more vintage, apparently. There's only one seller and he sells out as soon as he puts them on ebay. I'm thinking I might try to pick one up and see what the fuss is about.
I hate tube mics. They are old technology, and are behind the times. Everything is solid state now. There are no tube mics used in professional studios unless they're all digital, which is a lossy recording format that produces major issues that require a lot of processing. Good studios use all analog recording peripherals and have analog tape AND/or a DAW (usually protools) for their audio. The only reason anyone would go gaga over a tube mic is if they're recording at home and can't afford an analog set-up, even though they can be done for an affordable price. However, they take more time/money to set up, and people are lazy/cheap.
If tube mics were worth it for recording quality and performance, they would be making consoles that have the juice required to run them standard by now.
They don't.
So tube mics are just for crappy digital audio interfaces to sound warmer, even though good processing can easily fix it. But like I said, most people are lazy.
If you learn what the filters and EQ and other audio imaging/fixing/restoring features of the various all digital DAW's do, and how to use them, you wont need to waste your money on a Tube mic.
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Re: Gear Talk! +Wishlists « Reply #35 on Mar 4, 2011, 11:26am »
I mean, as VSTs and plugins are getting more advanced, the same could be said about ANY signal processing device. And yet, people are still buying compressors and noise gates and yadda yadda. Fact is, there are always going to be people who are more enchanted by doing things the ol' fashioned way and there are people who are going to be cutting edge software pros and skip all the hardware glorifying.
Analog/tape is being phased out and professional studios are shutting down. Everything is turning digital now and more people can afford music-making technology in their homes. Let the nostalgic folks hold on to their gear
I mean, as VSTs and plugins are getting more advanced, the same could be said about ANY signal processing device. And yet, people are still buying compressors and noise gates and yadda yadda. Fact is, there are always going to be people who are more enchanted by doing things the ol' fashioned way and there are people who are going to be cutting edge software pros and skip all the hardware glorifying.
Analog/tape is being phased out and professional studios are shutting down. Everything is turning digital now and more people can afford music-making technology in their homes. Let the nostalgic folks hold on to their gear
Woahwoah, analog isn't being phased, just tape ;P
Until they can get digital to be perfectly latency free like analog is, we are gonna still be using it ;P
Tape is totally gonna be gone soon, though. There's no use for it, and digital is an amazing medium. It's just that all-digital is meh, and gets megga laggy when yer putting 10,000 plug-ins ;P
But isn't the Neumann M147 a tube mic? That's why I mentioned the Stellar mic. Not that it would be of the same calibre . . . just a bang-for-buck mic that's getting a lot of attention . . . from lazy and cheap folks like me haha.
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Re: Gear Talk! +Wishlists « Reply #38 on Mar 4, 2011, 1:55pm »
Boy, I wish one of you would just tell me what to do. I'm so clueless when it comes to gear/editing. I think I sound pretty good, but, it is always something to think about.
But isn't the Neumann M147 a tube mic? That's why I mentioned the Stellar mic. Not that it would be of the same calibre . . . just a bang-for-buck mic that's getting a lot of attention . . . from lazy and cheap folks like me haha.
It's my "if everything else is sold out choice" mic. It's nothing I would get excited over getting/having. lol
I just would trust that one tube mic because its tubes are pretty darn cheap.
I'd rather have an expensive mic, then mod it to use cheaper tubes than have a cheap mic with cheap tubes. =/ Ya know? ;O
Mmm mmm....jus thinking about those mics...aw baby..
If I go more musical composition, I'll need to update my arsenal:
Guitar: A Black with Red Bevels Jackson KE2 Custom (with tune-o-matic instead of floyd rose.) and a custom Coffin case for it.
Keyboard: Roland Phantom X6
Slave Device: Korg Triton
VST: Hollywood Strings (5k. For strings.)
DAW: Pro Tools (whatever is the latest)
or if I work with more midi: Logic (whatever's the latest)
Custom Recording PC (Or MAC if I go with Logic) optimized for pro tools, and with 7 PCM slots so I can use the amazing VST's I want.
Guitar Amp: A Vetta III Amp or Custom Marshall Amp
Analog Mixer: Amtrak (Who needs a house? HA!)
Speakers? A secret
A special pre-amp for my awesome mic: Focusrite Red 7 Classic Microphone Pre-Amplifier with Dynamics (oh baby, this thing's worth every fucking penny.)
Probably a Sony Two-track DVD Audio Recorder to record to..I like Sony's products when it comes to Audio.
As for Mbox 3, it will always have shitty pre-amps, good pre-amps are thousands However, some good interface or plug-ins can fix it. The odun side is you'll get some bad latency over time..
Ugh, I'm gonna bore you all with my gear talk. lol, but yeah, that's my list so far i'm always tweaking it, just like with my gearbox setting for guitar/vocals
^How YOU doin...
I was wondering, I use an AT2020 with a VoxGuard, mic stand, and usually record outta my walk-in closet in my condo, which has fairly insulated walls. I also record with Audacity for the time being since Audition crashes on my computer for some reason...
Yet whenever I record, unless I'm doing loud or husky characters, my lines come out way too quiet. Are there certain settings I'm not getting quite right here or is the AT2020 a dud?
I was wondering, I use an AT2020 with a VoxGuard, mic stand, and usually record outta my walk-in closet in my condo, which has fairly insulated walls. I also record with Audacity for the time being since Audition crashes on my computer for some reason...
Yet whenever I record, unless I'm doing loud or husky characters, my lines come out way too quiet. Are there certain settings I'm not getting quite right here or is the AT2020 a dud?
3 questions:
What pitch are these characters' voices? Low? Normal? High?
Do you have a roll-off activated on your 2020?
How close/far from the mic do you get when you do these voices?
Edit: Upon looking up your AT2020's frequency response chart, it seems to have a really shitty low-end from 200HZ down.
I'd try boosting 200 Hz and lower with some EQ, and see if it helps. If your voices are at low pitch, it'll explain why they seem quieter....if that's not the case, the mic might be having internal issues, unless you have a roll off, or you have a high-pass filter applied...
These are usually lower, or my softer talking toned characters.
No roll-off activated.
And as for distance, well I'm usually standing a couple inches away, around 8 or so to avoid any kind of puff.
Yeah, the AT2020 has really baad low-end response. Lower pitched voices are going to come up a lot quieter on one of those. You'll need to boost your low end with some EQ, or turn up your pre-amp and risk peaking.
These are usually lower, or my softer talking toned characters.
No roll-off activated.
And as for distance, well I'm usually standing a couple inches away, around 8 or so to avoid any kind of puff.
Yeah, the AT2020 has really baad low-end response. Lower pitched voices are going to come up a lot quieter on one of those. You'll need to boost your low end with some EQ, or turn up your pre-amp and risk peaking.
I was afraid of that, alright I'll give that a go and see if it patches up the issue. Hopefully at the very least, I won't have to raise the volume so high that background feedback gets heard, heh.
Thanks a lot for your help, bud. I appreciate the heads up big time.
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