I知 depressed. Need help. T~T « Thread Started on Apr 28, 2012, 12:04pm »
So recently I致e been wanting to do an abridged series. My first attempt was at parodying the Black Rock Shooter OVA. I gathered an army of voice actors and got as far as making a trailer:
But soon everything came crashing down. My voice actors procrastinated, and communicating was difficult. One girl WHO WAS FLAT OUT PERFECT FOR THE MAIN ROLE had her mic brake and dropped out. And a whole bunch of other BS that got in the way. Finally I had a fit and dropped the whole project and wrote a letter of annoyance to all my voice actors pissing most of them off in the processes and now some of them don't want to work with me. So I wasted about a year of trying to parody a measly 30 minuet OVA. I壇 like to try again but I need some advice on keeping my VA痴 on task and communicating better with them. I got skype and they all had skype but they never replied to my E-mails or IM痴. If you want to voice act for me then feel free to send me an E-mail: [EMAIL="tylerjunky@yahoo.com"]tylerjunky@yahoo.com[/EMAIL].
Now on to my next question. I have a whole bunch of anime on my computer but there all MKV files and I want to convert them into an AVI without the subs. Any ideas?. I don稚 mind if the quality drops a bit. I知 poor so I'd like it to be for free.
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Re: I知 depressed. Need help. T~T « Reply #1 on Apr 28, 2012, 5:09pm »
Hmmm... I'm sorry to hear the difficulties you experienced. It happens a lot though, despite best intentions on the producer and actors' parts, so you know, don't feel too bad about it.
To ensure this doesn't occur in future, you could cast understudies. You should state very clearly the commitment level of the project and what the actors should expect in terms of time frame and workload. You could say that failure to submit on deadlines will lead in instant dismissal (if that's how you roll). You might also want to think about hiring people who have a proven track record of being 'active' and reliable as voice actors. That isn't to say you shouldn't hire anyone new (new people should always be given a chance). I'm only suggesting the last point because of the difficulties you have experienced with VAs.
That being said, even if your VAs are being crap about replying, ff you constructed this letter with eloquence, assertiveness and understanding, then that's okay, but it sounds to me like you just wrote a letter of annoyance to blow off steam. I'm not surprised if the VAs no longer want to work with you if that's how you reacted.
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Re: I知 depressed. Need help. T~T « Reply #2 on Apr 29, 2012, 1:11am »
You might also want to look at the level of professionalism and organization you use when communicating with your cast.
I have no idea what you do or don't do, since I've never worked with you personally, but I've dropped as a voice actress from various projects before because...well, here's the kind of thing that usually happened. The producer would send constant emails, often with poor grammar/punctuation/etc, saying "ok heres the script" "ok heres the NEW script sry i made a mistake" "hey did u get the script" "hey have u done the lines yet" and bugging constantly "hey when can i expect the lines by?????" And then people in the cast would get tired of it and just drop, and they'd want everyone else to take on their roles and it would just be huge amounts of lines sometimes seeing little to no progress from the producer. Or sometimes, they'd insist their voice actors attend Skype meetings/join forums/yahoo groups for the project, which to be honest is really unnecessary as most communication and sending lines can be done through e-mail.
Again, I don't know what your particular circumstance was - but IMO it was out of line for you to send an angry rant to your voice actors. If you really wish to give up on your project for those reasons, you could express your disappointment in a mature manner, like "Due to the lack of commitment from cast members, I'm afraid I won't be able to continue this project."
@.@ I dunno, it just seems kinda fishy that ALL your VAs dropped out/stopped communicating with you, like there must be a reason, ya know?
You might also want to look at the level of professionalism and organization you use when communicating with your cast.
I have no idea what you do or don't do, since I've never worked with you personally, but I've dropped as a voice actress from various projects before because...well, here's the kind of thing that usually happened. The producer would send constant emails, often with poor grammar/punctuation/etc, saying "ok heres the script" "ok heres the NEW script sry i made a mistake" "hey did u get the script" "hey have u done the lines yet" and bugging constantly "hey when can i expect the lines by?????" And then people in the cast would get tired of it and just drop, and they'd want everyone else to take on their roles and it would just be huge amounts of lines sometimes seeing little to no progress from the producer. Or sometimes, they'd insist their voice actors attend Skype meetings/join forums/yahoo groups for the project, which to be honest is really unnecessary as most communication and sending lines can be done through e-mail.
Again, I don't know what your particular circumstance was - but IMO it was out of line for you to send an angry rant to your voice actors. If you really wish to give up on your project for those reasons, you could express your disappointment in a mature manner, like "Due to the lack of commitment from cast members, I'm afraid I won't be able to continue this project."
@.@ I dunno, it just seems kinda fishy that ALL your VAs dropped out/stopped communicating with you, like there must be a reason, ya know?
Yeah that's kinda more or less what I did.
I felt I had to stay on top of everything as the head of the project and I wanted things to be "perfect". I was especially piky when it came to mic quality because all of the decent abridged series I've come acrose on Youtube has solid voice work done with good mics and I turned auditions down when there mic quality wasn't what I wanted even if there voices went good with there role.
And I also was annoying with wanting them to be on skype and bugging them with E-mails and such. I was asking them every week if they have lines done and stuff like that. I just wanted to get it done at a reasonable pase.
Do you have any advice on how I can sound less annoying and still be sure things get done?
I was especially piky when it came to mic quality because all of the decent abridged series I've come acrose on Youtube has solid voice work done with good mics and I turned auditions down when there mic quality wasn't what I wanted even if there voices went good with there role.
Well, there's nothing wrong with that as long as you state so in your auditions. Plenty of producers won't consider auditions with bad mic quality.
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And I also was annoying with wanting them to be on skype and bugging them with E-mails and such. I was asking them every week if they have lines done and stuff like that. I just wanted to get it done at a reasonable pase.
Yeah, TBH if you're annoying about it a lot of people will lose interest. Just think about what you need to say and format your emails properly and concisely. Give a concrete deadline instead of continually asking for progress on the lines.
Hmmm... I'm sorry to hear the difficulties you experienced. It happens a lot though, despite best intentions on the producer and actors' parts, so you know, don't feel too bad about it.
To ensure this doesn't occur in future, you could cast understudies. You should state very clearly the commitment level of the project and what the actors should expect in terms of time frame and workload. You could say that failure to submit on deadlines will lead in instant dismissal (if that's how you roll). You might also want to think about hiring people who have a proven track record of being 'active' and reliable as voice actors. That isn't to say you shouldn't hire anyone new (new people should always be given a chance). I'm only suggesting the last point because of the difficulties you have experienced with VAs.
That being said, even if your VAs are being crap about replying, ff you constructed this letter with eloquence, assertiveness and understanding, then that's okay, but it sounds to me like you just wrote a letter of annoyance to blow off steam. I'm not surprised if the VAs no longer want to work with you if that's how you reacted.
Thanks that'll come in handy. I'm thinking about trying again and I'll use you're suggestions in the new casting call.
I was especially piky when it came to mic quality because all of the decent abridged series I've come acrose on Youtube has solid voice work done with good mics and I turned auditions down when there mic quality wasn't what I wanted even if there voices went good with there role.
Well, there's nothing wrong with that as long as you state so in your auditions. Plenty of producers won't consider auditions with bad mic quality.
Quote:
And I also was annoying with wanting them to be on skype and bugging them with E-mails and such. I was asking them every week if they have lines done and stuff like that. I just wanted to get it done at a reasonable pase.
Yeah, TBH if you're annoying about it a lot of people will lose interest. Just think about what you need to say and format your emails properly and concisely. Give a concrete deadline instead of continually asking for progress on the lines.
Thanks. That helps a lot and gives me a few idea's. And hey I'm wondering. Have you ever voice acted for an abridge series or other fan parodies? If so how are you used to doing it. I'm asking because I want to know if there's a single way I can do it with voice actors or send them the edited video and have them record away.
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Re: I知 depressed. Need help. T~T « Reply #7 on May 4, 2012, 7:16am »
I've heard or read it multiple places - "raw talent" is great, but "people skills" can sometimes be even more important ( especially in a pro setting ), because it's a team effort.
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