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Comments « Thread Started on Sept 11, 2005, 9:02pm »
Hey, I was just wondering if any of you guys had dealt with your friends being un-supportive of your voice acting.
I recently found some comments written on a web site by someone who I thought was a friend of mine, to find some extremely hurtful comments regarding my work - including my singing, which was something I was finally gaining confidence in.
I find it odd how a million words of praise from random people online mean nothing when compared to a few hurtful words from someone who you believed was a friend of yours.
I'm not asking for consolation. I just want to know if anyone has gone through a similar experience.
I have, through my art, through my life, and through my own voice.
It is true, words of praise mean less to me than they should. And words meant to cut do it quite well. However, don't look to blame others 100%. Perhaps you have over-hyped yourself, or to some degree, as I do, think far too highly of your own abilities.
maybe that's why I sympathize as well as despise your position. Because we're so alike in how we accomplice things that it's puzzling sometimes.
When I was young and stupid, I quit my art when I was 12 because I was laughed at, and I could see through the hollow words of praise from friends and family ever since I was very young. Hollow words of praise, ignorant ones, are more biting than any insult I could hear. Because at least valid insults are honest, and for me... they teach us, in a way, where we may be going wrong, whether in talents or what we do and how we do it...
we both have a long way to go, but can be so extremely powerful once we overcome how incredibly dumb we are. isn't that a good first step?
One thing my mom often said to me when I started writing my novel was that I would never be able to become a Author and have it published. She had no faith in me, and that hurt. But, I was always determined to prove her wrong.
That's one thing that often keeps me going. Whenever someone says I can't do something, I want to prove them wrong.
But as for friendship betrayal, I've suffered A LOT of it in my time, especially in between grades 5-9.
I moved to a town about 15 minutes away from my previous one in Grade 5, but I wanted to finish the school year there. Everyone that I had thought was my friend, except for a select three, turned on me.
I tried to make new friends but after awhile, they also turned on me. When it came time to say goodbye, no one would even talk to me. That... scarred me for quite awhile. I became a loner. I continued to suffer from betrayal and abuse till mid grade 9. I only had one friend from Grades 6-9, and he's stuck by me ever since. It took me a long time before I was able to crawl out of my loner shell and I was starting to suffer from serious depression.
so, I know how it feels. It feels awful. But you can also learn a lot from these expierences. You can find out just who really is your real friends as well as some points that TESM already pointed out.
Anyways, I don't know why I posted my past like that. I don't tell it to too many people, yet here I am posting it on the internet. I guess I just posted it to show you that you're not alone. There will always be assholes in the world, but you just have to keep going.
"It is impossible to please everyone. If you try to please everyone, you'll please no one."
And hey, Kagome-chan, if you ever need to talk to someone, need cheering up or something, feel free to call me. You have my number. And I'll still call you every now and then (not too often though, it's not cheap )
I've been a loner my whole life... maybe I'ma bit weird and strange to you all.. but I'm me. I've made me, but was directed sometimes by the will of others... Hurting young and dealing with it is better than being slashed to bits when older...
Kai-kun, why would they turn on you just because you moved? o.o
See, if this person was a guy, it would be a lot easier for me to take it up with them but I have a much harder time confronting girls for some reason.
um... it's kind of complicated. I live in a community called Delta, that's composed of a bunch of towns. I moved from a town called Ladner to Tsawwassen (Ta-Wass-En) and well... there's a bitter rivalry between the two places, especially among kids.
loneliness hurts... been it for quite a while now. except for the one or two friends who come around my place so now and then. it's all part of a simple mind game called: i'm superior to you. and if seen some friends succumb to it. eventually becomeing major assholes themselves. maybe out of jealousy, or maybe not. who will ever tell...
and kagome... i know what you mean... i've got no problem talking to girl's about stop being a whiny ass and let me do my thing. but when it comes to guy's, whom i believe are my friends... it get alot harder...
lonliness and being alone is a blessing. what better way to learn. I conversly have problems speaking to many people, off the bat, on such things. But fear aside, people are people, sex is not an issue.
however, I'd watch being swept in grief or anger. stories and views.. get, oh so skewed.
Agreed. I've been friends with both guys and girls (obviously), and I notice, with some exceptions of course, various patterns in the ways they handle fights or problems. With guys they usually tell me face to face that they don't like something I'm doing, where with the girls, it usually shows up in their LiveJournal, or I'll find out from another person, where they act civil to my face. (The guys just come right out and say "cut the crap", while the girls usually won't tell me unless I confront them about it, and then it gets ugly.)
But to get back to the voice-acting subject, regarding TESM's comment: There is a very fine line as far as confidence vs. arrogance goes. I absolutely despise it when people think they are wonderful VAs and they have nothing to learn. Everybody has something to learn, and unless they have a starring role in an actual show or game or whatever they really don't have room to talk about how perfect they are. However, you can't get anywhere without some self confidence. If you have no faith in your ability, it shows in your work. I can often tell when new people post their examples and they sound insecure. So I say, realize your skills and know your limitations.
as for my comment about sex is not an issue, I said that is so when fear is aside and WHEN I speak to them of serious matters.
as for your comments. My comment had little to do concerning that. I had assumed a deeper understanding. My mistake.
yes, male and females are different. But we're all people, and in ways, all so predictable. Of cource we have different perspectives, but that doesn't mean we can't say the same thing to them, as, in a way, I have now. That is what i mean. You may word it differently, to be sure. Girls often are more emotional and nit-picky, while guys are prideful and tend not to listen.
there is much here in everything said in here. I hope it doesn't fly over your heads.
To be honest I would prefer a harsh yet realistic critique over a generic praise. (this is for anything I do)
And as far as betrayal goes, well I remember back like in 4th or 5th grade way back in the day, I had this best friend and we were the class clowns. Always getting kicked out of class always laughing. Well there was this other group of kids that I just hated, they were my complete opposite. Mean spirited and just jerks. Slowly over the course of a few months my supposed best friend started hanging out with this jerk crowd and just left me and and the rest of our buddies. Everytime we saw him we would just shake our heads and walk off and you could see it in his face he felt some kind of guilt but hey we were just kids!
there's more to that story, but what's here is enough. Old alliances are fragile, and children, for all innocence, are so weak. It's a shame. I split with many friends and became a loner because I wouldn't follow the crowd.
You know what? As weird as it may sound, children are actually among the cruelest people in the world. I'm sure you all know what I mean.
As for loneliness, I, personally, hate being alone. I'm an only child, my parents are split up, my mom's often sick and I'm almost always alone. There are times that I want to be alone though, especially when I'm trying to voice act (it sounds weird to people around me because they might think I'm talking to myself XD).
But because of my move, for awhile I was an outcast in Ladner because I lived in Tsawwassen and I was an outcast in Tsawwassen because I used to live in Ladner. I used to be a complete wimp and got hurt really easily, but after all the abuse I suffered, I became a lot stronger and resilent. So, I suppose some good came out of it in the end.
But hey, let's try to get off the depressing subjects now and move on with our lives. We can't change the past, but we can try to pave a better road for us in the future.
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